EP12 Watch my denim fade after a promise was made

Hi guys, in this week’s episode we discuss Pasha's first Redcast Heritage order, two fading contests starting very soon:

INDIGOOPEN Fading contest, created by denobession, starting March 1st https://www.instagram.com/denobsession/
Use the hashtag #indigoopen on IG

NEIGHBOURHOOD X EDWIN Fading Contest, created by Neighbourhood Harnhem in collaboration with Edwin, starting March 16th
https://www.nbharnhem.com/regular-tapered-nihon-menpu-raw.html
Use the hashtag #neighbourhoodcontest on IG

We also discuss Blue Owl’s fade museum as well as Swiss denim OG Swissjeansfreak and his Jeans museum

https://www.blueowl.us/blogs/fade-museum
https://www.instagram.com/swissjeansfreak/
https://jeansmuseum.org/

Our previous denimhead of the week MrRobertSelvedge
https://www.instagram.com/mrrobertselvedge/ hit us up with a question regarding his potential next purchase and we explore a couple options.

He’s also on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/namedJustBob/featured 

And finally, I reveal the latest member of the family, a pair of 20oz Oni Secret Denim!

Wishing you all a great week!

Transcript

Pasha is still in shock. I am this has been quite a week for yeah for multiple reasons. But you know yeah, just getting new jeans. That's it. 

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Hello and welcome to episode 12 of the Denim Heads Podcast. I'm Pasha and I'm Dariusz cattle Pasha Rigondeaux. You know, as the Puerto Rican's would say here in New York NY OK what's going on with you? Not much just wanted to say cattle also to all of our Spanish fasteners. They've. Past Switzerland as the number 2 most most of our listeners. Maybe it's now in in Spain. So pretty cool stuff. Speaking of Spain, actually I finally placed an order at Red cast. Oh, Thursday night or Friday and I got an email for it shipped. I believe yesterday if I'm not mistaken from Spain, so I'm actually really really excited to to purchase from Red Cast because I haven't yet. I mean, I've purchased from tender in the UK, but I have been kind of creeping on the Red Cast website for a minute now. I've been meaning to order from them. For for awhile. But I haven't for a variety of reasons. One because it's international, have loyalty points. Cast is instantly. Yeah, I have loyalty points with with Blue Owl. In in Washington I have. I've used all my loyalty points over there, so I used it to purchase the the PBJ green cast ones from a few weeks. Screencasts OK and then you'll have to update us at some point about, but it's going well. Finally, 

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you know, I've warned him probably a good five or six times, but red cast I've consistently wanted to order from them because. One, they tend to get stuff a few weeks before shops here in New York, in the States and frankly it's cheaper. So sometimes you know. If I plan it accordingly, at least for New York. Uh, for the US you have to order a minimum of $250. For to get free shipping and free shipping to the states. So I will. Above socks, whatever they just released, I bought like 4-5 different pairs of socks. Just 'cause I love socks. Yes, the Japanese socks that they had this past week. Yeah, we're very enticing, so let's see. But I don't think it's going to be. Last time I ordered from them. I think it's going to be the start of a lot of things. They have those. They still have those keychain. The student artists in keychain. Yes, that hopefully will get you to pick up. You have one of those not from studio, you have another one. That's from studio. I got it from you. Bought it from somewhere. I bought it. Well, yeah, OK, but definitely I'm looking forward to hopefully ordering OK. Nice, very nice. 

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I want to talk about something that I saw. Obviously this week I. Read about fading contests, OK? OK, we know about Indigo Invitational, but there's a guy on Instagram. He's got a really nice account. He's IG handle is then obsession so DEN. And then the word obsession. He's a big time. He's is a big big denim heads. He's based in USA Recrowning the dead ahead of the week this early. I don't know. OK, we'll see. We'll see he might be episode OK Alright are you teasing for later? OK, good for you he might be if you check his account he's got a really nice collection he's he's got a bunch of he has those only slash tanuki collapse really yes OK yes yeah then yeah. And he's compared the colors with the actual normal. I want to see Onis or the actual normal to new keys. I can't Remember Remember now which ones, but he's done some you know picks with the two pairs next to each other so you can see the different colors and he's compared a bunch of those very nice stuff. He's got a bunch of jackets and shirts. He's yeah, he's he's knowledge as we say his letter, OK? I just learned about that so. Hopefully you know whoever listens to this will confirm that it is what 

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it means. Yeah, I trust you with this. 

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Anyway, he's starting. He's just created his own fading contest, so it's called Indigo open. Anybody can participate, you just need a new pair or something that you you know you want around maybe 10 times. So it's going to last for six months starting March 1st. And then is its US. You know you guys us the community that will be voting the winners, so that's pretty cool is going to be happening. Of course online on Instagram and you can enter. We need to pair jeans, denim jacket, denim shirts, pretty much anything. It's very open March so it starts in March. Yes, March and we have a date in March. March is technically for these days. Marshall is OK. Yeah, March 1st. I was hoping maybe we could you and I can enter with our. Yeah, with our project, huh? It's no, we won't make it obviously OK. OK, but it's nice he's done that. He's collaborating actually a bunch of partners have also entered, and you know, for the prizes and stuff, so I forgot. I'll be very, very honest. I forgot to write down the partners, but there are a bunch of brands, a bunch of shops and I think red cast is in there too. Really, OK? Yeah, yeah, so. I invite everybody you know to check that out, and maybe enter the contest 'cause it's free and it's for everybody so. It's nice it's a good initiative, I think, yeah, that'd be totally fun. I mean, it's yeah for the community. It's exactly bring us all and have some fun and get the conversation going. Exactly, that's pretty cool stuff. OK, yeah, and DN obsession. That's the DN obsession yes, and you have to use Spell obsession without 

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looking at spell check, you know? Yeah, no, let's not do this right now, but everybody can can just put the IOB and then, exactly, it's the first hit, and then something will pop up. Hashtag you have to use is indigo. Open OK so indigo open Excel word INDIGOOPENOK. 

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Perfect thank you. Now another another fading contests weirdly. You know, starting March 16. OK, that may be a. Yeah, why am I even, you know, talking about another one after mentioning Indigo open. This one is different. That's why it's interesting. It's a shop in the Netherlands. Again Netherlands, like something very cool. Yeah, I mean, by the way, are Dutch people taking over denim world or something? I don't know. They're doing a lot of stuff, yes. I was thinking maybe there's a Game of Thrones analogy there that we could make, but I don't know. You know the North and everything. Well, somebody has to come up with it's OK yeah yeah, not us 'cause we're not creative enough, no mic in front of him that's it exactly were just chatting. Sorry guys. So the it's it's organized by a denim shop so the shop name is neighborhood. And they teamed up with Edwin Japan, the brand Edwin Japan. OK, different thing is for this fading contest. You have to buy a pair of denim so they chose one specific model. It's a model that's part of Edwin's made in Japan line. I'm not familiar with Edwin like that, so pardon me if I say something stupid. But I've just read about it. It's part of their made in Japan line. It's a relaxed, tapered salvage of course. And what's interesting is that it is kind of light, so it's ounces. OK, so that's interesting to to enter the 

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contest so you have to buy the jeans it costs. I want to say: code only so it's pretty. I mean it's you know it's a fair price. Fair price point, yeah yeah yeah. From March 16th. Everybody will just start wearing those and they will also give out prizes and stuff. Also a bunch of other brands and partners have teamed up or I think maybe it's only Edwin. Now that I'm thinking about it 'cause they are the main partner or you guys can go on their, you know IG account or the website. It's called neighborhoods and if you Google neighborhood slash you know Edwin Japan fading contests. You'll find it and everything will be in the show notes as usual OK? Yeah, back to the coddle, because I'd love to enter with our our hopeful our project, but we're moving. I mean, I was checking our email account. Denim heads isn't plugged in. I don't even remember our email anymore. Denim heads at Gmail, is it? I'm I'm gonna need your right there, the name heads@gmail.com 

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yeah. And three weeks we haven't even mentioned the name. But yes, I was checking the denim heads@gmail.com or account. And I saw that, you know you're going back and forth with with coddle. Yes, so we're at this point. We're going to just order them. You want to give a few details. Maybe I was just about to say I don't have any details. Adarsh is the person that's just handling everything. Yeah, what should I do? Should I and I'm just paying the bills? OK, that's fine with me anyway. 

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Yeah, so from what I know, we're going with the slim straight. I'll let you correct me. Slim straight. You're probably doing size 3. I'm doing size 2 or size 1, and you're doing size 2 and we're going to add a couple pieces of or things a little customizations to it. Yeah, we will probably once we decide and once we get it from Kadhal, certainly uploaded onto the Instagram page. Is it obviously blue? Of course, yeah, it'll be there. Obviously Blues are high, obviously. Obviously_blue_blue. OK, as you can see, we have no idea what our email addresses are. IG handles again Sunday morning. We're just two guys with a mic in front of him and just chatting, so that's that. Will be nice. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. That certainly looking forward to the Dutch denim project as that starts to come to fruition. Yes, yeah, there's a lot of cool stuff out there. I was actually looking at fade museums. Nice and before sort of starting with that I would. I would say when looking I didn't know but Blue Owl has a fade museum jigsaw puzzle. So basically it's a picture and it's turned into a puzzle and they sell it. I think it's like $30.00 so it was a very interesting puzzle. Nice, it's a nice gift for any dumb head. Out there, but I think well has sorry blue owl. They have their own their own fade museum right? So that's where I started my sort of looking at these things when this all like about a year ago. I was like wow, this is really cool and there's a lot I don't know exactly how many pages, but I want to say there is. Fiber to ballpark like 30-40 of of Denham that are on. There fade museum and a lot of good pictures and really beautiful stuff. Things that brands that I'm very well aware of. OK. But I think. If you talk about fade museums, the conversation starts 

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and ends with Swiss dreams. Swiss jeans freak in Zurich. Swiss jeans for this guy has 14,000 in his museum 1st. And also it's a legit like. It's legit. It's it's jeans museum dot or GI mean. That in itself is sorry yes. That was me. Yes it was. Silence your phones please. Yes. Swissjeansmuseum.org, now that in itself is very legitimate, but you know, having 14,000 he takes in, I think it deserves a lot of praise because what he also does is he's really doing this too from an environmental sort of standpoint. It's a much less. OK, I'm a footprint. He wants donations, he says, rather than even sending it to me. First try to reuse it as much as you can, then repair it. OK, then give it to somebody else and then at the very end if you can't find anything, don't throw it out. Send it over to me. Yeah, but Zurich, Switzerland, yeah. Definitely worth a a pilgrimage to visit if you're really into this. Now you know he talks about his collaboration. Was it for 60th birthday or something? He collaborated with another brand, yes, in 2019. He's got his own collabs, so yes, his opening line of of of denim being like a fetish, erotic fetish or something that was a little extra. But you know, I could do without that part. I don't think I could take my love that much. OK, but it is pretty cool. It's a very cool website and a lot of information there. You know you were talking about starting this Invitational. These denim fading contests in March. 

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He always recommend reading on his FA cues. I was talking about how it's always. Best to start in late fall like OK in October Ish in the Northern Hemisphere and hemisphere because he's anti washing in general. He he hears thousands of like with like he has an iron heart pair that he's worn 1000 times without ever Washington OK tore up from the floor up but he loves it. And you know he talks about like if you're going to do this started in the October time, roughly because it's not going to smell as much. And yeah, you avoid summer for a whole year, basically. Yeah, yeah, exactly so. It's it's good. He's really. He's a legend, Rudy. He's a legend if you're on Instagram, you have to check his his account. It's Swiss jeans, freak. In one word. He is based in Zurich, so I feel a bit of ashamed. I should have researched it. Two 'cause he's in my part of the Woods. So yes, I think I'll definitely go and visit the place when I can. I think we'll try. We'll both try 'cause we have that we have places to go. We want to go to. 

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Does the shopping in Zurich as well. Exactly? What's the name of the style DC staff and we had two bunch of places I want to show you jeans life in Winter Tour. There's another shop in Winter Tour two. Yes, I forgot the name but there are a bunch of those quickly coming back to the Swiss change freak. You have to check his account. He's taking his jeans. You know he's you can see him skiing on hikes, doing a bunch of stuff. Wearing silky had a pair in on his website. He had a pair that was like he doesn't wash them but he was sitting. I think in the pool at in Singapore is at Marina Bay. That famous Marina Bay sent. Yeah the hotel with a pool on the top on the top. Yeah yeah, I think he's sitting. There's a picture of him there really like yeah like 100 pairs of denim in the background and everything and he has. I'd be surprised that do let somebody go in the pool with jeans like that so. He didn't go in little hazard. Yeah, no, you're right. But I don't think he went in them. OK, but he has a picture like they're. They're all along the side. It looked like that. That's what it was. It could be a different. OK, it might not even be the one in Singapore. OK, I'm browsing through his stuff. I can see that, but he's probably done some stuff like that. Yeah, it's pretty cool stuff, but yeah that thousand wear with arnhart. It was with like the. Other, the CEO or whatever. OK, he's his own pair, the one that I'm the pictures I'm seeing now. There are pretty recent pictures. It was done with the candiani denim. Yeah, that's 

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the one, yeah so. Very interesting stuff. He's a. He's a bit of a legend. He everybody. If you're into denim and you're on Instagram on social media, you'll see this guy. He's an if you do send him a message or something he's going to answer for sure. Yeah, I think he's he's definitely like an authority on this. I feel like you know he has a good. It's a great place for for one to start. He has a lot, a lot of knowledge to share. I mean if you want to see how it looks when you take something to the maximum like denim huh? Be taken to the maximum. You'll end somewhere like that. Basically that's a lot of that's a lot of 14,000 pairs. Hopefully one day. Very soon we can. We can go and visit him and have a chat. Yeah I think so. Yeah, we'll take the podcast on the road. That would be nice record from face to face. Actually, you might actually one day record an episode next to each other because yeah, moving on. Sure, our denim head of the week from last week, Mr Roberts Salvage. In case you guys are not Mr Roberts salvage he is. He does YouTube videos too. He is the real man of the Woods. Yes, yes, yes we so we chatted for awhile this afternoon basically and he sent me. He sent us a message because he's looking to buy a new pair an he was asking quick question, what would you suggest for an affordable salvage Jean Slim tapered that looks good with sneakers, you know, like converse and stuff like this and he's around 14 ounces, so not too heavy. Uh, 'cause he's got a pair of Iran hearts that are heavier and he's got a budget of maximum 250, but he would prefer. Of course spending less. He is looking at 

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TCBY so I told him I'm not aware with TCB is looking at the slim 50s salvage. He wants something salvage of course TCBY. Absolutely every time I've come I've come to so, you know, I told him look, I'm not even sure I'm the right person to answer 'cause I know a few brands I know a few options. But there is a lot of choice out there, especially with that budget. It's a good budget. You can go Japanese. You can go American. You can go Levis Vintage Clothing which I don't know much about in terms of cuts and everything. So again not sure you can easily go with unbranded. If I'm being told me he looked at unbranded too, yeah? Was he ever? Yeah, yeah. OK. Unbranded would be a good option. Rogue territory would be a good option. Naked and famous would be a good option. He's doing a lot of he's working with his Denham so he has to squad allowed he's doing. He's moving around. He's not sitting at an office. From what I understand. So it's gotta be something that you know he can really beat up a little bit. So the thing with slim, tapered or the slimmer cuts it will wear through a lot quicker when you work in, it's going to breakdown, which would be nice for fading, but long life wise it's not going to. It probably won't last as long as a roomier cut, true, but yeah, that's yeah. TCP is a good option. I probably would. I would probably go rogue territory or uneducated, just just because I mean. Yeah, well we could try and really call out all the people listening to this podcast and see. Maybe if they have a good idea something you know we're not going to name all the hit him up on him up. If they hit him up on IG Mr Roberts 

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Elvis. Yeah, maybe some of our we have a couple brands that an shop. Yeah, might want to send him a message or something. He I was going to tell him he should also watch that. CRD video CRD did a video recently. On affordable salvage jeans, something like around 100 bucks so I know he's got a budget that's higher than that, but that could be also an option 'cause he that video was kind of interesting. He reviewed a bunch of salvage jeans, around 100 bucks each, so you never know you might find something super interesting. OK, OK, I think this week the denim head of the week is going to be myself. OK, yeah, why not? Yeah yeah, right. OK, it's gotta be myself. 'cause wait, there's something that's bothering me just here by the table I could say something like microphone. Check 1-2. What is this? It's a red cast package. I don't think you knew about this, I didn't. Oh my God OK yes yes yes yes, sorry for the noise guys. You can see what's happening. No, but this is genuine excitement, yes. Think it is. It is. Wait, let me let me do it like this. Can you see what it is? I mean, I know I could see exactly what brand it is, but is it what I'm hoping it is? It is what you're hoping it is. It's the only secret denim yeah, alright you are dead ahead of the year in my book I think right? Yes OK, this is like genuine excitement 'cause I didn't know. Yes, OK guys, we're back sorry we had a little technical issue. Yeah, we lost connection. We lost connection but basically yeah I I got myself a pair of only secret denim. After you know many, 

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many months of how do you call that hesitation? I don't I'm super excited, this is when OK. I'm sorry when did this arrive? This arrived maybe 5 days ago. The order was done maybe two weeks ago. OK with broadcast, but due to, you know Brexit kovid and a bunch of stuff my package got stuck. In Spain, so this has nothing to do with broadcast. They they shipped it right away. This well because I wanted to, you know, have the actual surprise during the podcast. All this I am surprised this is Yep. Wow, OK. **** nice, there you go. I'm excited. 

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And and I received a little only bendana, so this is some nice stuff too. Well, yes, absolutely I was. I was gonna wear it today, but that would have kind of give it away I guess. Had you seen notice? I mean I would've 'cause I actually wear bandana over my mask. Believe it or not OK I have a is it blue blue Japan or something like Oh yeah blue blue Japan right right I got one of their bandanas over the summer and I've been rocking it. Over my Mac, a nicer little style? Yeah, definitely, but OK, that's I mean that's that's very exciting, yeah? So I can finally start wearing them now. OK, and you can. You can start the integral Invitational to yes and that gives me a good excuse to start. You know the indigo open to both of us? Yes yes. So there you go guys ending up on a nice surprise. Yes, very surprised. Extremely surprised. Well, that's great news. And partially still in shock. I am. This has been quite a week for yeah, for multiple reasons. But you know yeah, just getting new jeans. That's it. Ultimately, yeah, that's what it is, but I'm excited. Welcome. Welcome to the club of thank you Cortana. Yeah, one of our. Huge favourites, try think yes. If it wasn't for the fact that it's 20 ounces. I would tell Mr. Robert Salvage to pick that up if you could. Yes, because the budget is not. It's a little higher than his budget as well as. 20 ounces, but I feel like it's a light 20 ounces. It doesn't feel that heavy exactly. I told him that 'cause this afternoon he was texting me and he was like, yeah, I'm also look I'm on the Red cast website and I'm looking at the secret Denham. But it's 20 ounces and I told him. I said look, it is 20 ounces but somehow the fabric is thinner than you would think, you know and it is on the light side. Somehow I don't know how they do it. It's the secret denim so, but it could be an option, and that's something that's kind of. It's a grill. Fabric 

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for for some time had that's a good word Grail, OK? Yep, that's a that's accurate. Yeah, OK, very much. OK guys, thanks for listening. Will see you next week. Take care.