EP10 Discussing heavyweights in denim and hoping for new collabs

This week we discuss what is potentially one of the world's heaviest denim (and somebody wearing it daily), the ten pairs every denimhead should own according to Denimhunters and we're crossing our fingers for another Oni x Tanuki collab.

Chuck wearing the 32oz Naked and Famous
https://www.instagram.com/32oz_selvedge/

The Naked and Famous podcast on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqoU3DcHbn5w_JuJ-yD_enBqul6OCB9LC

Denimhunters' article
https://denimhunters.com/buying-guides/raw-selvedge-jeans/

Tv shows we briefly discussed:
Euphoria
The Undoing
Ozark
Succession
Better Call Saul // Breaking Bad
Your Honor

Get in touch: thedenimheads@gmail.com

Transcript

Actually, though you should know I'm going to use this opportunity. I have a friend of mine who's looking for if anyone is interested. He actually has two tickets to the Super Bowl. OK, I paid $21,000 for these things. It's Super Bowl weekend. Comes with like backstage passes and the locker room and hotel. Everything like penthouse suite. Everything like that. But the problem is it's on the same day as his wedding OK and so he's looking for someone to take his place right at the wedding or at the Super Bowl. Just ruined the joke. 

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Sorry. 

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OK, that's how the joke was. Yeah, if anyone's interested. It's happening at the Saint Paul's Church in Orlando. 3:00 PM her name is Ashley. She's 5 four. She loves to fish and hunt perfect. She'll be the one in the white dress, perfect. 

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Hello and welcome to episode 10 of the Denim Heads Podcast on Pasha and our use. Dariush we made it to episode 10. This is some some rarified air for podcast territory indeed. According to Buzzsprout, there is approximately 1.8 million podcasts out there, and the top third record about once a week and have at least 10 episodes. So we are in the top 1/3 of all podcasts. Yes, we want to celebrate exactly stuff it is it is. It's been. It's been quite a journey. I mean, we started this a few months ago and. It's it's been fun, very fun, absolutely. And it's not that difficult, but we've been trying to promote the idea of podcasting for anyone out there who's listening. Mean rising tides lifts all shipped. So for anybody out there wants to to record a podcast, especially about denim, please go ahead. It's some good stuff, but buzzsprout, they host, I believe, a podcast by the name of like Pod. Sorry, I was cast cast exactly. They've been very helpful. I know you listen to their podcasts all the time and yes, you pull in some of their stuff. I touched on this. Helpful hints. Yeah, I touched on this quickly in the last episode. I don't want to repeat myself, but I do listen to their podcasts. I do watch pretty much everything they upload on their YouTube channel. And you're right, it's been really, really helpful. And again, I think. We've been, we've been lucky to end up with both proud 'cause the content they put out is really helpful. It's very clear. It's very easy to understand when you're not coming from the podcasting world, which was which is our case and we had to 

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learn everything on the fly. And yeah, it's been. There's no other word. It's been really, really helpful. So all the can't really learn how to fly. Yes, I think we all. We both. All we did is just I think we decided to do it. We bought. A microphone and we started recording within a day or two, exactly receiving the the microphone didn't know what to do and exactly yeah, bus protsman shout out to both problems being so beautiful. So there is what's on your mind this week, I've seen something interesting. There's a guy out there doing the Indigo Invitational contest, so that's a fading contest. And he's doing it with a pair of naked and famous. But it is kind of a special pair. 'cause it is a 32 ounce naked and famous. So let me add a bit of context. Like when talking weights, you know I would say that we consider heavy denim in the ballpark of 18 to 20 ounces, I would say. So try and imagine 32 ounces. If you check you know his his page, the fading, it's beautiful and everything. But just imagine breaking in a pair of 32 ounces Denham. It's it's called the Indigo Invitational. Is that the contest? Yes, it's a fading, Great name too yes yes yes yes. It sounds like a good name. There's a lot of fading contests going on in the world right now. Every year some people that you know they they buy a pair of denim and they wear it for a year straight. And then whoever gets the nicest fades and everything wins something. So Indigo Indigo Invitational is is the one that I've seen the most around. Basically on on social media. And so this guy he he started the year with a pair of 32 ounces naked and famous. It's interesting 'cause. Yeah, again, if you think about it, we we see 18 to 21 ounces and we think, wow, that's kind of tough already. So breaking into 32 

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ounces is something else. Did you say his name of his Instagram handle? His handle is 32OZ_salvage? 

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OK, yeah. Easy to find. Get naked and famous is does these sort of things. Yes they are very. Forward thinking, let's say with the way they do Denham. Yeah, I know they have like reflective material in there. They've had some unfortunately off the top of my head. I'm a little ill prepared for. But I know they will hand tend to do more interesting things. Yes, they are known for that. If you go on their website you'll see it right away. There's a lot of different stuff, and it's really interesting 'cause they do push the boundaries a little bit. And it's one of the more I want to say mainstream Rodan brand, so they have a lot of exposure to that. It's it's. It's an interesting brand. Absolutely, OK, yeah, that's pretty cool. That's nice. That's nice. An I was just looking around, you know naked and famous and I saw that on the on YouTube there was they have a YouTube channel and they were doing a podcast, so that's also. There's also something kind of interesting to listen to their. It's not. They don't have an RSS feed or anything is just on SoundCloud I think. And on YouTube it was around 2018-2019. It's mainly talking about naked, naked famous podcast. Revolving around the brand of course, but still there are some interesting stuff to listen to there. I'm sure I'm sure there's some good stories to. I mean there there. Yeah, you know, sort of behind the curtain exactly would work. That's pretty cool. Speaking of like heavy heavier denims and such. Going on the Internet, you know this week I've seen that online retailers around the world began restocking. The only secret items which are about 20 ounces. Talking bout sexy 20 ounces. And 

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it's it's I considered getting a second pair. Because I just love him so much. Yes, I bought a pair about a year ago and has some people during the pandemic. You either gained a lot of weight or he lost a lot of weight loss. The fair amount of weight and thought about buying a second pair just to sort of have and sort of in a different cut and such but. Are you approaching the time? Yeah, sorry. Go go go ahead. Well I was just going to say and then chatting with you about this during the week. I think you reminded me of a tanuki only denim collaboration, which, upon a little bit of research, was released. I think in 2018, yes, and it sort of made me think about holding out for that collaboration. 'cause that would be a very cool. 20 ounce secret Denham in sort of tanuki tailoring and yes, and buttons and stuff, and. I mean, that's three years ago. Are you hoping it's going to come back? Or do you know something we don't? I don't know. I wish I did know know I'm just hoping, OK, I think with potentially the. Hopefully fingers crossed the pandemic winding down. Maybe there will be more collaborations and things will pick back up. Yes, to make up for some lost time. All of was essentially yes loss so I would hope there's going to be some some good collaborators. Well, acridinium is maybe in my in my eyes and with the little knowledge that I have. It looks like it is one of the most sought after fabric. I 

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think it's like it's very iconic almost. I think it definitely made them really put them on the map. I don't know if that's a fair assessment. I think they were probably already on the map they were on the back, but I mean, but that that made it. That's something else, definitely. So what's what's? Are you going to wait and see if something you know? If they do something again with the new key? Or are you going to pick up a pair? I'm very tempted by the way, sorry. Are you yes? Pick up a secret then I mean you have the the Type 3 jacket. I I don't know. You know what, why not? We will put it out to the listeners and see if they have any any considering I'll try and workout upon your exactly and see your Instagram people would be you know, hoping for a another collab with tanuki or maybe a different collaboration, maybe, maybe, maybe there will be if fingers crossed the PBJ. Only Denham well collaboration. A secret denim snow Denham. A pair I don't know because I think they they used the dying process of tanuki with the secret Denham. OK to make a very special fabric. So never know, I don't. I mean, I loved last years twenty 20s Snow Denham. Yes, probably my favorite parents. This is funny. I remember seeing those this collaborative tanuki secret Denham online and it was, I think it was. Just before we really, really got into it and I didn't really. Of course, we didn't know I didn't really realize what it was and but I remember seeing this may be on different shops on the new go and and other 

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shops, but I really I didn't pay attention like I was like. Yes, those two brands are collaborating OK, but we didn't know how special it we didn't know. We really didn't know. You don't miss it until it's gone, and so exactly, or at least you don't know you missed it until it's gone. So I I just sounds like she. I wish I did start this a few years ago. That would have been a would have appreciated a lot. Well I think yeah, I think if you go for a simple pair of secret Denham 'cause you have one but you're not really happy with the cut or you maybe you wasn't you didn't pay attention to the cut, the sizing and everything when you bought them. So maybe if you get another pair you'll be super. Washes with that and you know how to you know the measurements and everything, so now you know the measuring God. Yeah, absolutely. Looking at the measurements I would have definitely. Now I can kind of see where I should have gone OK with which cut and which. Which waist size these new reruns there are two cuts if I'm not mistaking. Relaxed tapered I believe and straight OK. Slim straight like that. Yeah, from what I've seen. I mean I've seen it at three different online retailers. Red cast blue and green soho.com here in New York and then blue owl of course blew out two in in Seattle. Yes, on red casts. Other web red cast also had Speaking of tanuki. They had like a crew neck. A sweatshirt that was that was released in that looks good, I mean they. They they talk it up real nice that it's one of the most comfortable pairs of. I'm sorry, comfortable, most comfortable sweatshirt. OK, yeah he's ever been made and stuff and I know over the summer you and I picked up the tanuki T shirts. Yeah, the shinki 

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HSS T shirt heavy T shirts. That is heavy. But it is good. It bleeds. But by the way, the Indigo definitely bleeds. I remember you been wearing them with some lighter pants. Basically that's what you mean. I did, yeah, yeah. And my waist was a hint of blue, OK? Definitely, but those were. I mean they. Tanuki does some pretty good stuff outside of Denham. Much like Studio, Dart is a little bit more creative with their with their apparel. Yes, tanuki does some pretty nice quality stuff with their shirts and sweatshirts. I'm curious, I might waiting. I saw a red cast, which is, I think I know it's in Spain. I think it's red cast is in Spain. Yes, it's in no. I think it's in Madrid. Is it in Madrid, OK? Then yeah, I'm kind of curious to see if there's a retailer here stateside. Um, that will have it. That will pick it up and I'm sure you'll find it somewhere. Yeah, I'm hoping. But yeah, OK, will see interesting. King about iconic stuff. I came across a really interesting article on denim hunters. Denim hunters, I don't want to say I was. I underestimated it, but I've been going back to the name Hunters recently and it's really full of. Super interesting Information, super solid information and you know advice is tips on pretty much everything you would you would want to know about denim. But this new article it's called the Short list of well made an essential raw selvedge jeans. Every denim head should own. Oh, this is good. Yes, OK, I'm very curious 10. There are 10 of 'em so I'm not going to go through everything. I'm just going to list the brands. OK, sure, 'cause the models sometimes 

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it's just a bunch of numbers so you guys have to check it will be in the show notes. So all of you can go check. But this is this is interesting and I'll tell you why after so. In order to see if I can guess what they are, but I'm not. Maybe I should OK and embarrass myself otherwise well in no particular order. OK, LVC, so that's Levi's vintage clothing. Sure, ironheart ironheart. We don't really talk about it, but I see it online. On social media there is an ironheart army out there of people wearing those and it's it's a religion for them like we love raw denim. But people who love Ironheart's it's it's a whole different game really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. So LVC ironheart's strike gold. I don't know much about it either. Full I've I've come across right, yeah, OK cool counts we know bout it full count TCP five that stands for two cats brand and taking care of business. That's what I read. OK, Montero is their only samurai, PBJ and big John. Big John also is a Brenda life. You know that that's the interesting interesting thing is I have yet to read and educate myself on more than half of those brands. I think if you start to go down that rabbit hole as we like to say, I think it's like a drinking game out there. How many times can they say rabbit hole in episode? Take a shot for us I would say. If you use circulate through certain certain online retailers, James Dan, for example, I believe has big John OK, you'll come across these. These brands, like the first one that you were talking about. Strike gold. Is that yes? Yeah, I think I've seen that on maybe blue and green this week. OK, if I'm not mistaken samurai, you see it everywhere. They had the. Didn't they have the gods? The Godzilla? 

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Is it summarizing what samurai? I thought it was similar but I could be wrong actually, maybe it wasn't, it was. No studio dollars. What am I talking about? But the Godzilla especially OK but I have seen Samurai Samurai had like a red pair. Maybe in the past two or three months like like a red weft. OK pair of denim from what I remember. Full count full count has some new releases that I've come across in the past few weeks. Sure, I think if you go, I mean I'm very localized. I'll stick to retailers here in the States just because. For me it's just in terms of shipping and such. It's easier, but I mean that's a very commercial approach. What I mean by that is that yes, we know these names. We've seen them. We've seen some of their models and stuff, but when it comes to educate yourself on the brand, it's history. The meaning of you know the product's. What are they telling you? Basically? What's the storytelling behind it? And everything? There is the book Blue Blooded from last week. That's a great book for this sort of thing is. I still recommend that. You know whatever I briefly knew about like naked and famous when you were talking about, they went through almost a good number of their special, naked and famous is special Denham and different things that they have done as well as I'm sure if I looked. Yeah, I mean, many of these brands that we talk about regularly are featured in that book. Of course, of course there are a bunch of books, but this one was this one is venomancer. Yes, I mean he, that's from what I understand that's the guy behind that hunters. So it would make sense that the two of 'em you know would sort of they would be the same exactly where I thought it was an interesting list. You know 10 pair jeans that every denim had shoot on 10 is a lot. You're probably close to 10 yourself, but you're not wearing all 10 of them. At the same time, no. I I 

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don't. I definitely know I'm nowhere near 10. I probably am loyal to three or four brands. I know exactly I like and I stick with it. If they have something new that looks good, yeah, or or something. But yeah, no, I wish I wish I could say I'm. I mean, but it's interesting to see brands like Levi's Vintage Clothing, for example 'cause, and I think we touched upon this last time too. We have been ignoring American brands. Yeah, the big three he talked about this Wrangler Levis and yes at some point we'll have to dive into those three brands also and I'm guilty of that. I'll have to go look it up first. 'cause again I don't know much about those three brands unless that yes they exist and they matter in the denim world. But unfortunately I have yet to educate myself. Yeah, I picked up a pair of boots from this company and of course I can't remember the name Truman. There it is OK. I have the shoe box. I have my laptop sitting on the box so I couldn't see the name in the studio. Yeah yeah yeah, but Truman boots in Oregon if I'm not mistaken talking bout American they have some really good outside of that and they have great boots. OK I have. I think two or three of their boots and they're just quality quality stuff. Good stuff. I excellent and comfortable and yeah, I highly recommend Truman as well. Truman Boots about American. Yeah Truman boot Co. Yeah, there's a few. There's like Taft, if I'm not mistaken. We talked about Taft, did we? Yeah we did I think not on the account but they have some interesting boots and nice stuff. OK stuff. No, there's definitely a lot of good quality work here in the States, yes. That certainly get overlooked and not enough love. So, 

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outside of Denham are you, are you watching anything outside Denham talk? Are you watching anything? Finishing up anything? I think I hear in the states. The undoing was was out in the fall, but in Switzerland I think it was released just recently as well as euphoria's yes. OK, undoing I can't talk much about it 'cause I have yet to to watch it. I'm a little bit late. Thank you DVR there right? Yeah, yeah euphoria. I've watched the 2nd special episode the Jewels episodes, which was pretty good. I enjoyed both of the special Christmas episodes that they released. Looking forward for, you know, the rest of the show. Yeah, Season season 2. So yeah, I'm really looking forward for you know where do I start Ozark? Succession Better Call Saul so Better Call Saul. Yeah that that there was some talk about that this week at the Golden Globes were the nominations were released this weekend. Bob Odenkirk talk tease a little bit about season six, the last season being really good. OK, so I am really looking forward Amy. I've been watching that show since season one. From yes, the job religiously once. Yeah, once Breaking Bad ended I started. I couldn't wait for Better Call Saul to start exactly. It hasn't disappointed to me. It's maybe as good potentially better, yeah? Them breaking may be very I, I really it's it's a legitimate conversation. I think it's legitimately one of the better. Spin offs Oh yes, definitely darker. A little bit less humor, but the story is just amazing. The writing everything you think I think I think it's funnier even than breaking Breaking Bad was that didn't have as much humorous. I mean, Bob Odenkirk is is good. I don't. I just 

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gained a massive appreciation for this, of course. But anyway, yeah, let's let's see what happens. Let us know if you do whatcha talking about. Breaking Bad. There's this new show with Bryan Cranston, your Honor. It makes a lot of noise here. Yeah, I haven't watched it. But yeah, yeah it actually got nominated as well for he got nominated. If I'm not mistaken. For best out there. So yeah, he's talking about Breaking Bad and stuff. Nice. Very nice. Well guys, we hope you enjoy this one and we will see you in about a week. Take care and have a great week ahead. Take care guys bye bye.